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Jack Ditch's avatar

One other place where I've noticed myself doing a "whatabout" that I consider justified: political arguments where the topic at hand isn't actually the topic at hand, but is rather a fight over which of two terrible politicians to support. When that happens, I do try to at least acknowledge the truth of whatever I'm whatabouting.

"OMG how can you support candidate X when they did Y?"

"Well, Y is bad, but candidate A did B and B is worse than Y and my only choices are X and A, so here I am."

I actually prefer this kind of whataboutism to fighting over Y and B, because usually I find out that nobody supports either Y or B, we're just all choosing lesser evils. We might not agree on which is the lesser evil, but we can at least agree they're both evil!

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Dr. Jake Tuber's avatar

Thanks for this!

I’m curious how the relationship between the arguer and the issue — to what extent does that impact the fallaciousness of the whataboutism?

To use some examples you reference, if one criticizes a Republican congressman’s defense of Trump’s documents handling and they in turn scream about Hunter Biden, that seems like unjustifiable whataboutism. In part, I suspect, because they are irrevocably attached to the issue. The deflection seems like unfair misdirection.

Whereas pressing “what about Sudan?” To a random American supporting the Palestinian cause (who let’s assume is otherwise untouched directly by either conflict), at face, does not seem like quite as fallacious a counterargument, as that person is opting into a moral issue with a degree of randomness (relative to them) that seems more valid to criticize with a whataboutist redirection.

So I’m curious how one’s relationship to the issue being discussed (and therefore their hypocrisy in being selective), plays a role, if any?

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